PLO projekt

    • nanoo13
      nanoo13
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      Registrace: 31.05.2011 Příspěvky: 1,870
      caff...

      Prešiel som na PLO asi pred mesiacom a na ps je hrozne malo materialov k tomuto formátu,tak som sa rozhodol založiť si vlastný blog kde si budem ukladať odkazy na volne dostupné videa a zapisovať poznámky k videam a mojej hre,a taktiež finálne handy v turnajoch,snáď sa najde niekto kto mi to tu ohodnotí či to bol speew all alebo ok.

      Začínam s bankrollom 500$,takže budem hrať PLO10 zoom a turnaje do 5$,za mesiac august by som chcel odohrať
      -minimalne 50 turnajov
      - minimálne 20000 hand na 10 zoom

      AUGUST

      1,....
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    • nanoo13
      nanoo13
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      Registrace: 31.05.2011 Příspěvky: 1,870
      dnes bolo trochu času v práci tak som pozrel video,,Becoming Omaha Hero - Know When To Hold'em And When To Fold'em (1),, od KYYBERI,popravde mám z neho trochu zmiešané pocity.
      Autor sa tam zaoberá agresiou ,na akych bordoch je vhodna agresia a ake je lepsie giveupovot,ale chyba mi tam zmienka proti akym superom je to mozne a proti ktorym sa radsej drzat pri zemi.
      priklad :Ac: :8d: :5s: proti openu 25% čaka 75% fe na ch/r co mi pride docela optimisticke hlavne na micro:gl:
      Hlavne myšlienky su ale fajn
      -napadať cbety na rainbow a sparovanych bordoch ktoré budú často light cbetovane a
      -vyhnúť sa agresii na nevhodnych heavydraw bordoch typu :Jh: :Th: :Ts: ,:Ax: :9c: :Tc: ,:Qh: :Qc: :Tc:
      -so stredne silnými handami typu :As: :Kd: :Ks: :9c: na bordoch bez backdoorov ako :Tc: :8c: :5h: sice máme zhruba 44% equity proti 25% RFI,ale je lepšie giveupovať už na flope hlavne OOP kedže nemožme ísť s handou do showdovnu a na väčšine turnov to budeme musieť zložiť
      Taaak a ešte dáke handy zo včera....
      Poker Stars, $2 Buy-in (2,000/4,000 blinds, 400 ante) No Limit Omaha H/L Tournament, 5 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      Hero (SB): 67,114 (16.8 bb)
      BB: 184,361 (46.1 bb)
      MP: 23,800 (6 bb)
      CO: 105,308 (26.3 bb)
      BTN: 235,557 (58.9 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with :8s: :Js: :Kh: :Ad:
      3 folds, Hero raises to 66,714 and is all-in, BB calls 62,714

      Flop: (135,428) :7h: :Tc: :4d: (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      Turn: (135,428) :8h: (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      River: (135,428) :Qs: (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Results: 135,428 pot
      Final Board: :7h: :Tc: :4d: :8h: :Qs:
      Hero showed :8s: :Js: :Kh: :Ad: and lost (-67,114 net)
      BB showed :9d: :4s: :6s: :9h: and won 135,428 (68,314 net)


      Poker Stars, $2 Buy-in (1,800/3,600 blinds) Pot Limit Omaha H/L Tournament, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      SB: 76,088 (21.1 bb)
      BB: 127,892 (35.5 bb)
      UTG: 152,241 (42.3 bb)
      Hero (MP): 150,976 (41.9 bb)
      CO: 118,382 (32.9 bb)
      BTN: 11,201 (3.1 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is MP with :Kh: :Ad: :Qc: :Ac:
      UTG calls 3,600, Hero raises to 10,800, 3 folds, BB calls 7,200, UTG calls 7,200

      Flop: (34,200) :7s: :Th: :4c: (3 players)
      BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets 20,520, BB folds, UTG calls 20,520

      Turn: (75,240) :Ah: (2 players)
      UTG checks, Hero bets 75,240, UTG calls 75,240

      River: (225,720) :2h: (2 players)
      UTG bets 45,681 and is all-in, Hero calls 44,416 and is all-in

      Results: 314,552 pot
      Final Board: :7s: :Th: :4c: :Ah: :2h:
      UTG showed :9c: :3c: :5c: :6c: and won 314,552 (163,576 net)
      Hero showed :Kh: :Ad: :Qc: :Ac: and lost (-150,976 net)

      Tu budem rad za kazdú radu či mal byť na to riveri fold alebo to bolo ok súper 67/21 agf 4,7 f3b 0 donk river 1/3


      a ešte jedna zo ZOOM
      Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
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      SB: $26.36 (263.6 bb)
      BB: $13.33 (133.3 bb)
      Hero (UTG): $28.21 (282.1 bb)
      MP: $10.61 (106.1 bb)
      CO: $16.55 (165.5 bb)
      BTN: $15.27 (152.7 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is UTG with :Kd: :Ts: :Jd: :3s:
      Hero raises to $0.30, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.30, SB calls $0.25, BB calls $0.20

      Flop: ($1.20) :Kc: :9c: :7d: (4 players)
      SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

      Turn: ($1.20) :8d: (4 players)
      SB bets $1.15, BB calls $1.15, Hero raises to $4.20, 3 folds

      Results: $4.65 pot ($0.20 rake)
      Final Board: :Kc: :9c: :7d: :8d:
      SB mucked and lost (-$1.45 net)
      BB mucked and lost (-$1.45 net)
      Hero mucked :Kd: :Ts: :Jd: :3s: and won $4.45 ($3.00 net)
      BTN mucked and lost (-$0.30 net)
    • BuchoCZ
      BuchoCZ
      Black Member
      Registrace: 09.11.2007 Příspěvky: 489
      Ahoj,
      hraju PLO 6max cg (100-200) a pokud sem budes postovat handy z CG, muzu pridat nejake svoje myslenky, i kdyz netvrdim, ze vim vsechno.. kazdopadne preju GL!

      ad KJT3ds: preflop je to fold na UTG, chtelo by to aspon 8ku misto 3ky, ktera v te hande pak nehraje vubec dobre.. Flop a Turn zahrany v poradku

      P.S. Turnaje komentovat nebudu, nehraju je... jeste jednou GL
    • nanoo13
      nanoo13
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      @BuchoCZ
      tak nato že hráš nl100/200 ,toho vieš určite viac za vagon o PLO ako ja ,budem vďačný za každu radu a postreh.
      K tej hande maš pravdu,bolo to loose akurat mam rozpozerane dake videa o preflop hre a preflop range tak sa mi snad podari o tom nieco zosmolit do konca týždňa.


      Tento týžden musim dotiahnuť ešte 30000hand na bwine a potom sa už chcem venovať PLO na 100%.
    • nanoo13
      nanoo13
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      ...Včera sa mi podarilo dotiahnúť do konca challenge na bwin a tak som sa vrhol na PLO ZOOM,žial nedopadlo to najlepšie a stálo ma to pár buy-inov.

      Hneď 3handa na stole a už som vyťahoval zo šuflíka diazepam a fľašu vodky
      Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
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      SB: $10.22 (102.2 bb)
      BB: $38.53 (385.3 bb)
      UTG: $21.09 (210.9 bb)
      MP: $10.05 (100.5 bb)
      CO: $11.40 (114 bb)
      Hero (BTN): $10 (100 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BTN with :Ac: :3c: :6h: :Ad:
      UTG raises to $0.20, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.55

      Flop: ($1.65) 2: J: :4c: (2 players)
      UTG checks, Hero bets $1.50, UTG raises to $6.08, Hero raises to $9.25 and is all-in, UTG calls $3.17

      Turn: ($20.15) A: (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      River: ($20.15) Q: (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Results: $20.15 pot ($0.86 rake)
      Final Board: 2: J: :4c: A: Q:
      UTG showed 7: T: :9d: :Kd: and won $19.29 ($9.29 net)
      Hero showed :Ac: :3c: :6h: :Ad: and lost (-$10 net)


      hneď nato na druhom stole najskôr pod vplyvom tiltu a žiadnych statov na súpera
      Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
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      SB: $18.81 (188.1 bb)
      Hero (BB): $16.31 (163.1 bb)
      UTG: $12.32 (123.2 bb)
      MP: $20.24 (202.4 bb)
      CO: $13.36 (133.6 bb)
      BTN: $21.87 (218.7 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with 9: :Tc: :3h: :Kc:
      UTG raises to $0.35, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.35, SB folds, Hero calls $0.25

      Flop: ($1.10) 9: :9d: :Ac: (3 players)
      Hero checks, UTG bets $1.05, BTN calls $1.05, Hero calls $1.05

      Turn: ($4.25) :3d: (3 players)
      Hero checks, UTG bets $2.03, BTN calls $2.03, Hero calls $2.03

      River: ($10.34) J: (3 players)
      Hero checks, UTG bets $8.89 and is all-in, BTN folds, Hero calls $8.89

      Results: $28.12 pot ($1.20 rake)
      Final Board: 9: :9d: :Ac: :3d: J:
      Hero showed 9: :Tc: :3h: :Kc: and lost (-$12.32 net)
      UTG showed 6: :4d: :Ad: A: and won $26.92 ($14.60 net)
      BTN mucked and lost (-$3.43 net)

      preflop si myslím že sa to aj dalo callovať aj keď 9::3h: nie je žiadne terno,ten river som chcel foldnúť a určite som aj mal !!!
      potom prišla hitparáda AAxx
      Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
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      Hero (SB): $11.88 (118.8 bb)
      BB: $6.95 (69.5 bb)
      UTG: $18.57 (185.7 bb)
      MP: $10 (100 bb)
      CO: $20.15 (201.5 bb)
      BTN: $21.70 (217 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with :4d: A: A: T:
      UTG raises to $0.35, 3 folds, Hero raises to $1.15, BB calls $1.05, UTG calls $0.80

      Flop: ($3.45) 8: 7: 4: (3 players)
      Hero bets $3, BB calls $3, UTG raises to $15.30, Hero calls $7.73 and is all-in, BB calls $2.80 and is all-in

      Turn: ($30.71) 8: (3 players, 2 are all-in)
      River: ($30.71) :5d: (3 players, 2 are all-in)

      Results: $30.71 pot ($1.31 rake)
      Final Board: 8: 7: 4: 8: :5d:
      Hero showed :4d: A: A: T: and lost (-$11.88 net)
      BB showed :5h: :Tc: 9: :Qc: and lost (-$6.95 net)
      UTG showed :7d: :6h: :5c: :8c: and won $29.40 ($17.52 net)


      Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
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      SB: $10.91 (109.1 bb)
      Hero (BB): $10 (100 bb)
      UTG: $19.13 (191.3 bb)
      MP: $8.76 (87.6 bb)
      CO: $43.02 (430.2 bb)
      BTN: $76.88 (768.8 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with A: :Ad: 8: :4d:
      3 folds, BTN raises to $0.30, SB folds, Hero raises to $0.95, BTN calls $0.65

      Flop: ($1.95) T: :3h: :Jd: (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN checks

      Turn: ($1.95) :3c: (2 players)
      Hero bets $1.87, BTN calls $1.87

      River: ($5.69) :Td: (2 players)
      Hero bets $5.45, BTN raises to $10.90, Hero calls $1.73 and is all-in

      Results: $20.05 pot ($0.85 rake)
      Final Board: T: :3h: :Jd: :3c: :Td:
      Hero showed A: :Ad: 8: :4d: and lost (-$10 net)
      BTN showed :Ac: :9c: T: :8d: and won $19.20 ($9.20 net)

      Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      Hero (SB): $10.56 (105.6 bb)
      BB: $16.27 (162.7 bb)
      UTG: $16.93 (169.3 bb)
      MP: $12.66 (126.6 bb)
      CO: $9.70 (97 bb)
      BTN: $15.11 (151.1 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with :5h: :Ad: :6d: :Ac:
      2 folds, CO raises to $0.20, BTN folds, Hero raises to $0.70, BB folds, CO raises to $1.20, Hero raises to $3.70, CO raises to $9.70 and is all-in, Hero calls $6

      Flop: ($19.50) 3: 9: 4: (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      Turn: ($19.50) 8: (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      River: ($19.50) :3h: (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Results: $19.50 pot ($0.83 rake)
      Final Board: 3: 9: 4: 8: :3h:
      Hero showed :5h: :Ad: :6d: :Ac: and lost (-$9.70 net)
      CO showed Q: A: A: 8: and won $18.67 ($8.97 net)


      Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      SB: $9.45 (94.5 bb)
      Hero (BB): $10 (100 bb)
      UTG: $29.11 (291.1 bb)
      MP: $9.92 (99.2 bb)
      CO: $9.74 (97.4 bb)
      BTN: $51.72 (517.2 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with T: 2: A: :Ac:
      UTG raises to $0.20, 4 folds, Hero raises to $0.65, UTG calls $0.45

      Flop: ($1.35) :3h: :9d: :2c: (2 players)
      Hero bets $1.20, UTG calls $1.20

      Turn: ($3.75) J: (2 players)
      Hero bets $3, UTG calls $3

      River: ($9.75) 8: (2 players)
      Hero checks, UTG checks

      Results: $9.75 pot ($0.41 rake)
      Final Board: :3h: :9d: :2c: J: 8:
      Hero showed T: 2: A: :Ac: and lost (-$4.85 net)
      UTG showed 8: :Tc: :Jc: T: and won $9.34 ($4.49 net)

      Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      SB: $7.95 (79.5 bb)
      BB: $13.46 (134.6 bb)
      Hero (UTG): $11.37 (113.7 bb)
      MP: $10 (100 bb)
      CO: $3.21 (32.1 bb)
      BTN: $8.88 (88.8 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is UTG with :Ad: A: K: Q:
      Hero raises to $0.35, MP folds, CO calls $0.35, 3 folds

      Flop: ($0.85) J: K: :2c: (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.53, CO calls $0.53

      Turn: ($1.91) :6c: (2 players)
      Hero bets $1.83, CO raises to $2.33 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.50

      River: ($6.57) 2: (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Results: $6.57 pot ($0.28 rake)
      Final Board: J: K: :2c: :6c: 2:
      Hero showed :Ad: A: K: Q: and lost (-$3.21 net)
      CO showed A: :6h: :7d: :6d: and won $6.29 ($3.08 net)

      a jedine ÁAčka ktoré sa mi podarilo vytočiť a tu je vidieť rozdiel mať AA v holdeme a v PLO kde som mal od preflopu az do riveru cca 40% equity
      Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
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      SB: $13.17 (131.7 bb)
      BB: $11.14 (111.4 bb)
      UTG: $12.50 (125 bb)
      MP: $10 (100 bb)
      Hero (CO): $10 (100 bb)
      BTN: $13.69 (136.9 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with :4d: :Ad: 4: :Ac:
      UTG folds, MP raises to $0.25, Hero raises to $0.90, BTN calls $0.90, SB raises to $3.95, 2 folds, Hero raises to $10 and is all-in, BTN raises to $13.69 and is all-in, SB calls $9.22 and is all-in

      Flop: ($36.69) :Td: :2c: :Kc: (3 players, 3 are all-in)
      Turn: ($36.69) 8: (3 players, 3 are all-in)
      River: ($36.69) :2d: (3 players, 3 are all-in)

      Results: $36.69 pot ($1.50 rake)
      Final Board: :Td: :2c: :Kc: 8: :2d:
      SB showed :8c: :5c: :6d: :9d: and lost (-$13.17 net)
      Hero showed :4d: :Ad: 4: :Ac: and won $29.06 ($19.06 net)
      BTN showed 6: 7: K: A: and won $6.13 (-$7.04 net)
    • BuchoCZ
      BuchoCZ
      Black Member
      Registrace: 09.11.2007 Příspěvky: 489
      1. handa OK
      2. handa fold river, jak rikas
      3. handa - ne3betuju preflop, na to jsou tyhle esa moc slabe.. postflop budes mit v potu malo penez a neuhrajes to na vetsine boardu.. dej si pozor na to overplayovani es, je to v podstate nejcastejsi chyba hracu na microstakes.. a neni vubec problem je hrat v single raised potu
      4. handa - flop a turn ok, river betujes pot - jaky ocekavas vysledek? je to bluff nebo for value? protoze horsi te nic necallne a nic lepsiho nevyfoldujes.. naopak hodne draws missnulo, takze bych sel v klidu check call nebo hodne maly sizing - 1/4 treba (napr. pokud by jsi hral proti hodne pasivnimu hraci)
      5. handa - OK
      6. handa - zase, ne3betujeme, akorat tim donatujeme penize - souper nema problem to v pozici uhrat a value tam tim padem neni.. malokdy budes vedet, jestli betujes for value nebo jestli mas jit x/c nebo x/f.. obzvlast pokud 3betujes hlavne esa, tak budes ve vetsine pripadu s esama proti vsemu moznymu a nebudes vedet - a to i v pripade, ze souper si toho neni vedom..
      7. handa - betuju trochu vic na flopu, abych mohl shipnout turn
      8. handa - OK.. btw. dej si pozor, kdyz pujdete 3way allin preflop a dva z hracu maji esa, tak je ten treti vetsinou celkem dost favorit (da se toho vyuzit, kdyz napr. 3betnes nita, dostanes 4bet od jineho nita a puvodni nit shovne -> v 95% maji oba esa, takze je to call skoro se vsim)
    • nanoo13
      nanoo13
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      Registrace: 31.05.2011 Příspěvky: 1,870
      PREFLOP

      PLO staring hands 16,432
      NLH starting hands 1326

      EP+MP

      Nepodarilo sa mi vytvoriť žiadnu tabuľku štartovných kombinácii ,ale narazil som na knihu od Jeffa Hwanga - Pot Limit Omaha .

      Z EP je nutné otvárať handy ktoré budú dobre hratelné v multiway a dokážu na flope vytvoriť-
      - nut straight + redraw
      -top set + draw
      - nut straigt alebo flush draw,najlepšie oboje
      ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      -Big Cards :Kc: :Js: :Qc: :Ts:
      -A-High Brodway Wrap :As: :Kc: :Jc: :9s:
      -Rundowns od :6h: :9h: :7d: :8d: ,max dva single gap :Qh: :Js: :9s: :7h: ,jeden double gap :Qc: :Jc: :Th: :7h:
      -D/s Pairs od :7h: :7c: :8c: :8h:
      - Suited A + Straight Cards :As: :7h: :8h: :9s:
      - Suited A + Ofsuit pair :Ah: :Kh: :Tc: :Td:
      - Pairs + Suited Connectors :Qh: :Qc: :Jc: :Th: ,:Ah: :Qc: :Jh: :Jc:
      - AA Hands :sfishy:
      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      LATE POSITION
      - Three Brodway Cards+ Dangler :Ks: :Qs: :Jc: :5c:
      - Big Pair +Shit :Qd: :Qs: :7d: :3h:
      - Suited Ace :Ad: :7d: :Jh: :6h: ,/:As: :2s: :3h: :5h: ,:As: :4s: :2c: :Kd: je uz ale skor odpad,kedže budú často naše draw dominovane
      - Smaller Rundowns :3c: :4c: :5d: :6d:
      - Middle Pair + Conect Cards :8c: :8h: :7h: :6c:
      - D/S Big Cards + Shit :As: :Kd: :7d: :Ts:
    • nanoo13
      nanoo13
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      Registrace: 31.05.2011 Příspěvky: 1,870
      ...........taaaaaak mám za sebou cca 10000 hand a vyzerá to tak že mojou najväčšou slabinou sú :Ac: :Ad: :Ah: :As: ,na ktorých som v mínuse 10 buinov:f_ugly:

      ,,ľahko preflop,ťažko postflop"

      1,Preflop
      -AAxx má proti random hande 65% equity
      - najlepšie sa commitnuť preflop,ak máme v pote aspoň 1/3 stacku shove any flop je + EV
      - v multiway neprehrávať handu na zlych bordoch, predsa len je to len jeden pár!!!
      -vyhodnotiť podmienky na stole
      ...........................................................typ súperov
      ...........................................................výška stackov
      ...........................................................pozícia
      - slabšie AAxx ne3betovať
      -------------------------------------------------mimo pizície
      -------------------------------------------------proti loose súperom
      -------------------------------------------------ak sme deep
      Príklad 1,
      :Ad: :Ah: :8d: :4c: Hero
      :7c: :3d: :Jc: :2c: :f_drink:
      FLOP
      :5d: :Js: :Kc: ,flop je dry ,ale aj tak máme proti súperovy s trafeným párom equity len 60:40
      Príklad 2,
      :As: :8s: :Ad: :4d: Hero
      :Ac: :9c: :Ts: :8d: :f_confused:
      FLOP
      :2h: :Tc: :3c: flop je nebezpečnejší ale súper ma pár +fd a equity je zrazu 42:58

      - veľká chyba je 3betovať alebo 4betovať každé AA z každej pozície!!!

      1,Hrateľnosť
      - Disconnected,Random :As: :Ah: :2d: :9c: najslabšie esá
      - Semiconnected s draw potencialom :As: :Ah: :9h: :Td:
      - Premium D/S :Ah: :Jh: :As: :Ts: Double Paired :As: :Ks: :Ah: :Kh:
    • nanoo13
      nanoo13
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      Registrace: 31.05.2011 Příspěvky: 1,870
      a ešte zopár hand ....
      multiway sedím na BB tak som sa pridal,ako ale zahrať turn ak by tam prišiel spade ,alebo 10? ch/c?:f_eek:
      Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
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      SB: $13.03 (130.3 bb)
      Hero (BB): $10.63 (106.3 bb)
      UTG: $35.34 (353.4 bb)
      MP: $18.40 (184 bb)
      CO: $8.24 (82.4 bb)
      BTN: $12.35 (123.5 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with :8s: :Qc: :Qs: :3s:
      UTG folds, MP raises to $0.35, CO folds, BTN calls $0.35, SB calls $0.30, Hero calls $0.25

      Flop: ($1.40) :Qh: :7d: :Ad: (4 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $1, MP calls $1, 2 folds

      Turn: ($3.40) :7c: (2 players)
      Hero bets $2.20, MP calls $2.20

      River: ($7.80) :2s: (2 players)
      Hero bets $7.08 and is all-in, MP calls $7.08

      Results:
      $21.96 pot ($0.93 rake)
      Final Board: :Qh: :7d: :Ad: :7c: :2s:
      Hero showed :8s: :Qc: :Qs: :3s: and won $21.03 ($10.40 net)
      MP showed :9c: :Ac: :Th: :Qd: and lost (-$10.63 net)

      foldnuté esa na turne
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      SB: $6.81 (68.1 bb)
      Hero (BB): $10 (100 bb)
      UTG: $10.88 (108.8 bb)
      MP: $12.43 (124.3 bb)
      CO: $10 (100 bb)
      BTN: $36.71 (367.1 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with :4h: :Ad: :Ah: :7d:
      UTG raises to $0.35, 4 folds, Hero raises to $1.10, UTG calls $0.75

      Flop: ($2.25) :Qh: :Jd: :9c: (2 players)
      Hero checks, UTG bets $1.07, Hero calls $1.07

      Turn: ($4.39) :5s: (2 players)
      Hero checks, UTG bets $2.20, Hero folds

      Results:
      $4.39 pot ($0.19 rake)
      Final Board: :Qh: :Jd: :9c: :5s:
      Hero mucked :4h: :Ad: :Ah: :7d: and lost (-$2.17 net)
      UTG mucked and won $4.20 ($2.03 net)

      foldnute esa na flope
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      SB: $10.70 (107 bb)
      BB: $9.47 (94.7 bb)
      UTG: $14.12 (141.2 bb)
      Hero (MP): $10.27 (102.7 bb)
      CO: $18.06 (180.6 bb)
      BTN: $21.55 (215.5 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is MP with :3d: :4h: :Ad: :Ah:
      UTG raises to $0.20, Hero raises to $0.75, 3 folds, BB calls $0.65, UTG calls $0.55

      Flop: ($2.30) :8c: :3s: :Kh: (3 players)
      BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $1.20, BB folds, UTG raises to $5.80, Hero folds

      Results:
      $4.70 pot ($0.20 rake)
      Final Board: :8c: :3s: :Kh:
      BB mucked and lost (-$0.75 net)
      UTG mucked and won $4.50 ($2.55 net)
      Hero mucked :3d: :4h: :Ad: :Ah: and lost (-$1.95 net)


      1,overplay alebo suck out
      Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
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      SB: $12.47 (124.7 bb)
      Hero (BB): $22.54 (225.4 bb)
      UTG: $16.13 (161.3 bb)
      MP: $9.63 (96.3 bb)
      CO: $22.46 (224.6 bb)
      BTN: $13.43 (134.3 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with :Qc: :Ks: :Jc: :9h:
      3 folds, BTN raises to $0.30, SB calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.20, BTN calls $0.90, SB raises to $4.60, Hero calls $3.40, BTN calls $3.40

      Flop: ($13.80) :Th: :Qd: :7s: (3 players)
      SB bets $7.87, Hero raises to $17.94 and is all-in, BTN folds

      Turn: ($29.54) :2c: (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      River: ($29.54) :Jd: (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Results:
      $29.54 pot ($1.26 rake)
      Final Board: :Th: :Qd: :7s: :2c: :Jd:
      SB showed :7d: :Kc: :As: :7c: and won $28.28 ($15.81 net)
      Hero showed :Qc: :Ks: :Jc: :9h: and lost (-$12.47 net)
      BTN mucked and lost (-$4.60 net)


      overplay alebo suckout 2
      Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
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      SB: $6.94 (69.4 bb)
      BB: $11.05 (110.5 bb)
      Hero (UTG): $18.80 (188 bb)
      MP: $15.69 (156.9 bb)
      CO: $22.03 (220.3 bb)
      BTN: $8.85 (88.5 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is UTG with :As: :Ac: :5d: :Ts:
      Hero raises to $0.30, 3 folds, SB calls $0.25, BB calls $0.20

      Flop: ($0.90) :Qd: :Jd: :6s: (3 players)
      SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks

      Turn: ($0.90) :Ad: (3 players)
      SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.51, SB calls $0.51, BB calls $0.51

      River: ($2.43) :Jh: (3 players)
      SB checks, BB bets $2.33, Hero raises to $9.32, SB folds, BB raises to $10.24 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.92

      Results:
      $22.91 pot ($0.97 rake)
      Final Board: :Qd: :Jd: :6s: :Ad: :Jh:
      SB mucked and lost (-$0.81 net)
      BB showed :Kd: :3d: :Td: :Kc: and won $21.94 ($10.89 net)
      Hero showed :As: :Ac: :5d: :Ts: and lost (-$11.05 net)

    • BuchoCZ
      BuchoCZ
      Black Member
      Registrace: 09.11.2007 Příspěvky: 489
      1. pokud je souper pasivni a prijde Ts, tak jdu stejne bet, mozna o blind vic davam v kazdem pripade, zda callnout pripadny shove je uz vec odds, ale muzes mu dat do range i jine veci nez KJ (2p+fd, set+fd, QJ9+fd atd)... pokud by byl souper agresivni a bluffy, klidne muzes jit x/c, x/c a nechat ho se vymlatit - ale to opravdu jen v pripade, ze je agresivni ! coz prilis nepocitam, ze na techto limitech lide budou... jinak defaultne to tam vzdycky rvi lopatou, kdyz to mas!!!
      2. foldni to uz na flopu.. jaky mas plan? pokud prijde eso, tak ok (ale ani tak nemas nuts), pokud prijde bd fd, tak stejne nemas dost equity hrat to agresivne - a ani pasivne.. vzdy premyslej o hratelnosti handy, tohle je ez fold flop
      3. proti pasivnejsim souperum se cbetovat urcite da - a nasledne foldnout, jinak je lepsi to x/backnout a zahrat si dalsi street proti agresivnim (a podle karty a akce bud je vycallovat nebo foldnout)
      4. wp
      5. premyslim, jestli by se z toho dalo utect, ale spis asi ne.. (ale je pravda, ze mas az treti nuts) .. setup :)

      a otevirej (UTG a MP) pot sized - mas tam uzkou a silnou range, a kazdy centik preflop do potu je dobry :)

      glgl
    • nanoo13
      nanoo13
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      @buchocz

      Ďakujem za zhodnotenie som ti naozaj moc vďačný.
      Čo sa týka tej 2handy tak moj plán bol callovať flop s tými backdoormi na dve flushdraw,s tým že na turne by som pokračoval len s FD alebo hitnutým setom
    • nanoo13
      nanoo13
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      SPR Stack to Pot Ratio
      Link Text...

      Pri prechadzani fora ale aj pri sledovani videi sa často stretávam s pojmom SPR,tak čo to vlastne to SPR je?
      Myslím že docela pekne to vystihuje už staršie video z poľskej komunity .,link vyššie"

      SPR alebo počet efektivnych stackov voči potu


      SPR 0-1 v HU all in na flope
      SPR 1-4 v HU all in najskor na turne bez reraisu
      SPR 4-13 v HU all in najskor na riveri bez reraisu

      SPR a potrebná equity na stack off

      1/2 SPR...................................25%
      1 SPR....................................33%
      1,5 SPR....................................37,5%
      2 SPR....................................40%
      4 SPR....................................44,4%


      A teraz ešte niekolko postrehov o hráčoch a poole na zoome PLO 10
      -veľa hráčov cca priemerne 200
      -väčšina sú loosepasivny alebo loose agresívny,z čoho vyplíva že sa hrá až moc multiway potov na môj vkus + odds a equity väčšine z nich moc nehovorí

      Pomaly budem mať za sebou prvý mesiac na PLO 10 a keďže tu nechcem plakať nad rozliatym mliekom tak zhrniem len v skratke najväčšie chyby ktorým sa musím vyhýbať
      - Overplay AAxx ,,to je kapitola sama o sebe"
      - Hero callovanie so stredne silnymi handami,či už sú to postupky na flush bordoch alebo 2páry na heavy draw riveroch bla bla bla,málo ktorý hráč sa na tomto limite dokáže odbluffovať na 3streetoch skôr opačne najvačšia akcia je na flope a turne a s river value betom sú už hráči opatrný a dokážu ch/back aj druhú alebo tretiu nuts
      -Otváranie marginárnych a dominovaných hand z EP,myslím že to je jedna z veľkých chýb ktorá sa mi už podarila odstrániť, a z UTG a MP sa snažím hrať poctivo len s top handami alebo s handami vhodnými do multiway
      - Overplay voči fisch hráčom,tak tu platí na 100% myšlienka z jedného videa : Proti loose hráčom hrať tight a proti tight hráčom loose,potom nenastane situácia že ja cbetnem flop turn s 2toppármi a na riveri typu :Kc: ::Qh: :3s: :7d: :3h: mi to fiska s agf0,01 donkne za pot ja ju samozrejme callnem a ona mi ukáže :Ac: :2d: :3d: :4h:
      -preceňovanie párových hand bez draw potencialu typu:Kh: :Kc: :7s: :6d: ,:Qs: :Ad: :5h: :Qh:
      -v multiway hrať tight a priamočiaro,nevymýšľať žiadne slowplaye alebo ch/r lebo sa lahko s dobrej handy môže stať odpad
      FLOP: :Jd: :8s: :2c:
      HERO :Ad: :Ah: :Jh: :Js: 65% check
      P1 ::7h: :6s: :Tc: :4c: 18% check
      P2 ::9d: :9h: :Kc: :Qc: 17% check
      TURN: :9c:
      HERO: 11% rais 3/4 potu/fold
      P1 : 44,5% rais
      P2 : 44,5% rais all
    • nanoo13
      nanoo13
      Zlato
      Registrace: 31.05.2011 Příspěvky: 1,870
      ....taaak a ešte zopár hand
      opať AAxx ,ale snáď zahrane OK
      Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
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      SB: $10.78 (107.8 bb)
      Hero (BB): $14.48 (144.8 bb)
      UTG: $23.76 (237.6 bb)
      MP: $43.69 (436.9 bb)
      CO: $8.54 (85.4 bb)
      BTN: $40.51 (405.1 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with :Ah: :4h: A: :6h:
      2 folds, CO raises to $0.35, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1.10, CO calls $0.75

      Flop: ($2.25) 8: :3h: :5d: (2 players)
      Hero bets $2.15, CO raises to $7.44, Hero calls $5.29

      Turn: ($17.13) :2c: (2 players)
      River: ($17.13) :3c: (2 players)

      Results:
      $17.13 pot ($0.73 rake)
      Final Board: 8: :3h: :5d: :2c: :3c:
      Hero showed :Ah: :4h: A: :6h: and lost (-$8.54 net)
      CO showed :3d: :Jc: :5c: :4s: and won $16.40 ($7.86 net)



      AA ktoré boleli,ale ako to správne zahrať na flope? na turne? súper po 80 handach 30/15 agf 6 stab flop 70 WTSD 25
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      SB: $13.51 (135.1 bb)
      Hero (BB): $18.99 (189.9 bb)
      UTG: $7.99 (79.9 bb)
      MP: $25.61 (256.1 bb)
      CO: $10 (100 bb)
      BTN: $9.15 (91.5 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with :Ac: A: :Tc: :8c:
      UTG folds, MP raises to $0.35, 2 folds, SB calls $0.30, Hero raises to $1.40, MP calls $1.05, SB folds

      Flop: ($3.15) J: :2s: :Qc: (2 players)
      Hero checks, MP bets $3.02, Hero calls $3.02

      Turn: ($9.19) :5c: (2 players)
      Hero checks, MP bets $8.80, Hero calls $8.80

      River: ($26.79) :3h: (2 players)
      Hero checks, MP bets $12.39 and is all-in, Hero calls $5.77

      Results:
      $38.33 pot ($1.50 rake)
      Final Board: J: :2s: :Qc: :5c: :3h:
      Hero showed :Ac: A: :Tc: :8c: and lost (-$18.99 net)
      MP showed :Jd: K: :Ad: :2c: and won $36.83 ($17.84 net)


      ešte jeden coldcall
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      SB: $8.67 (86.7 bb)
      BB: $9.85 (98.5 bb)
      UTG: $6.83 (68.3 bb)
      MP: $10 (100 bb)
      Hero (CO): $10 (100 bb)
      BTN: $9.27 (92.7 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with :Jh: :9c: :8d: T:
      UTG calls $0.10, MP raises to $0.45, Hero calls $0.45, 3 folds, UTG calls $0.35

      Flop: ($1.50) :9d: :4s: :Tc: (3 players)
      UTG checks, MP checks, Hero bets $1.40, UTG calls $1.40, MP folds

      Turn: ($4.30) :Jc: (2 players)
      UTG checks, Hero bets $4.12, UTG raises to $4.98 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.86

      River: ($14.26) :Ad: (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Results:
      $14.26 pot ($0.61 rake)
      Final Board: :9d: :4s: :Tc: :Jc: :Ad:
      UTG showed :Qc: :7h: A: 8: and won $13.65 ($6.82 net)
      Hero showed :Jh: :9c: :8d: T: and lost (-$6.83 net)


      jeden limpovany pot
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      SB: $10 (100 bb)
      Hero (BB): $21.92 (219.2 bb)
      UTG: $10 (100 bb)
      MP: $6.50 (65 bb)
      CO: $4.45 (44.5 bb)
      BTN: $11.57 (115.7 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with :9h: T: 7: :3h:
      2 folds, CO calls $0.10, BTN calls $0.10, SB folds, Hero checks

      Flop: ($0.35) :3c: K: :3s: (3 players)
      Hero bets $0.34, CO calls $0.34, BTN calls $0.34

      Turn: ($1.37) :2d: (3 players)
      Hero bets $1.31, CO folds, BTN calls $1.31

      River: ($3.99) :6c: (2 players)
      Hero bets $3, BTN raises to $9.82 and is all-in, Hero folds

      Results:
      $9.99 pot ($0.42 rake)
      Final Board: :3c: K: :3s: :2d: :6c:
      Hero mucked :9h: T: 7: :3h: and lost (-$4.75 net)
      BTN mucked and won $9.57 ($4.82 net)


      jeden izo rais OOP na turne asi ch/f ale ked ta fish mala 50/17 agf3 po 50handach
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      Hero (SB): $23.58 (235.8 bb)
      BB: $10 (100 bb)
      UTG: $18.68 (186.8 bb)
      MP: $10.12 (101.2 bb)
      CO: $5.02 (50.2 bb)
      BTN: $15.67 (156.7 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with :Ah: :Jh: 9: :7d:
      UTG folds, MP calls $0.10, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, BB calls $0.30, MP calls $0.30

      Flop: ($1.20) :Jc: 7: :3d: (3 players)
      Hero bets $0.90, BB folds, MP calls $0.90

      Turn: ($3) T: (2 players)
      Hero checks, MP bets $2.87, Hero calls $2.87

      River: ($8.74) :2s: (2 players)
      Hero checks, MP checks

      Results:
      $8.74 pot ($0.37 rake)
      Final Board: :Jc: 7: :3d: T: :2s:
      Hero showed :Ah: :Jh: 9: :7d: and lost (-$4.17 net)
      MP showed :Kc: :Tc: :9c: J: and won $8.37 ($4.20 net)


      bol ten rais/call na tom turne spravny?
      Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
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      SB: $29.29 (292.9 bb)
      Hero (BB): $12.26 (122.6 bb)
      UTG: $10.86 (108.6 bb)
      MP: $7.70 (77 bb)
      CO: $29.56 (295.6 bb)
      BTN: $46.97 (469.7 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with :4c: :Qh: :5c: :7h:
      UTG raises to $0.35, MP calls $0.35, CO calls $0.35, BTN calls $0.35, SB calls $0.30, Hero calls $0.25

      Flop: ($2.10) :Qd: :6h: :3d: (6 players)
      SB folds, Hero checks, UTG checks, MP checks, CO checks, BTN checks

      Turn: ($2.10) :2h: (5 players)
      Hero bets $2.01, UTG folds, MP raises to $7.35, 2 folds, Hero calls $5.34

      River: ($16.80) 4: (2 players)

      Results:
      $16.80 pot ($0.71 rake)
      Final Board: :Qd: :6h: :3d: :2h: 4:
      Hero showed :4c: :Qh: :5c: :7h: and won $16.09 ($8.39 net)
      UTG mucked and lost (-$0.35 net)
      MP showed :4h: :5h: :Td: :8d: and lost (-$7.70 net)
      CO mucked and lost (-$0.35 net)
      BTN mucked and lost (-$0.35 net)

    • BuchoCZ
      BuchoCZ
      Black Member
      Registrace: 09.11.2007 Příspěvky: 489
      1) wp
      2) ne3betuju preflop, jste moc deep a budes mit na flopu moc velke SPR + velka sance na multiway pot = spatna hratelnost (kdybys mel misto 8ky T,J,Q,K nebo ji mel double suited, tak uz to squeeznu)... na flopu bych sel bet/fold, pri checku nevis, jestli se souper rozhodne bluffovat nebo ne (nemas-li info)... na turnu, kdyz hitnes jeste flush draw, tak uz neni cesty zpet - pokud jsi agresivni.... pri 100bb stackach ti vetsinou k esum na flopu staci gutshot na +EV stackoff, takhle deep to chce vic equity, proto bet/fold -> casto vyhrajes pot, ulehcujes si zivot atd...
      3) zahral bych to stejne, prtz je souper evidentne ryba, ale jen note: jack na turnu je pro tebe spatna karta, protoze co muze mit UTG, kdyz x/c flop? straight draws nebo podobnou handu jako ty, popr. trochu horsi 2p, proti regovi to je std x back (= check back) turn a reevaluate river NEBO bet/fold, ale v tom pripade bys musel davat s timhle i se straightou stejny sizing a to tak 2/3 - 3/4
      4) F a T se mooozna jeste da, ale river uz je urcite overplay... check a uvidime.. proc? protoze Kx ti uz nezaplati a prakticky zadne 3x ty neporazis.. a jelikoz ocekavam, ze to je pasivnejsi souper, co nebude zbytecne bluffovat, tak bych to check/foldnul (zcela urcite, pokud by to potnul)
      5) je to ryba - jdu bet/fold ez game.. dostanes value z horsich 2p a z par + draws a nemusis resit, jestli bluffuje nebo ne... bude to tezky dostat ty bet/fold line do krve, ale je to super dulezity prvek v omaze... "dobri hraci vzdy hledaji duvody, proc zustat agresivni, spatni hraci hledaji duvody, proc byt pasivni".. tento river pak check/fold (nebo call vs maly bet) nebo asi nejlip nejaky maly bet (1/4)
      6) wp, urcite v poradku.. obecne plati, ze pokud mas nuts na drawy boardu (jako straight tady), tak to hrajes pasivne, pokud NEmas redraws, ale agresivne, pokud je mas... protoze se ti pak muze povest dostat se do allinu straight vs straight, ale ty mas navic flush draw, tzn. freerollujes to (nemuzes prohrat, bud je to split nebo vyhrajes), a to je v PLO nejvyhodnejsi vec... proto se vyplaci hrat handy, ktere maji nejvic potencialu trefit spoustu veci (double suited connected handy)...
    • nanoo13
      nanoo13
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      taaak hola hej august je na konci a jedine pozitivum za tento mesiac je to že D1 Brno Vyškov je už opäť zjazdná v dvoch jazdných pruhoch takže cesta s práce mi už netrvá 6hodín.
      Čo sa týka pokru,tak tam to už také veselé nie je za mesiac som prišiel o väčšiu polovicu svojho bankrollu.
      Čo zato môže?
      - JA
      -Začiatky kde som ešte nerozumel tejto hre a odohral som pár nevydarených session
      -Neustále opakovanie tých istých chýb
      +callovanie mimo pozície s marginárnymi handami
      +station so slabými handami
      +overplaying AA

      SEPTEMBER

      Dal som si tu námahu a pozrel tento tyždeň zopár videii z PLO 10/25
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      Všetky videa majú jedno spoločné a to na micro treba hrať tight,v pozícii,počkať si na dobrý spot a neblufovať!!!!
      Taktiež som si vyfiltroval vyhrávajúcich hráčov na mojom limite vzorka je docela chabá mám na každého zhruba 300-500 hand ale tiež majú to isté spoločné TIGHT HRU
      -staty 15-20/10-15
      -overfolding blindov voči steelu,kde majú zhruba 80% fold na SB a 70% fold na BB
      - 3bet IP 5-7% oop do 3%
      Plány na SEPTEMBER:
      Určite sa to nechystám na PLO zabaliť,ale dávam si strop 20 bui-nov a potom prechádzam na PLO 5
      Ďalej sledovať videa a články k PLO
      Vytvoriť safe bankroll na PLO 10 najlepšie bez pomoci cashieru
      Venovať sa primárne cash game
      a na záver ešte zopár hand....

      Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
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      SB: $5.65 (56.5 bb)
      BB: $10 (100 bb)
      UTG: $13.33 (133.3 bb)
      MP: $20.06 (200.6 bb)
      CO: $33.27 (332.7 bb)
      Hero (BTN): $14.25 (142.5 bb)
      pred touto handou som mal na to CO 21hand a staty 14/14
      Preflop: Hero is BTN with :8s: :Th: :Qc: :7c:
      UTG raises to $0.35, MP folds, CO raises to $1.20, Hero calls $1.20, SB calls $1.15, BB folds, UTG calls $0.85
      tu som sa rozhodoval medzi raisom a foldom a vzhladom nato že je súper docela tight tak som mu dal do range hlavne AA** proti ktorým si stojím dobre a taktiež čakám že súpery predomnou nebudú mať žiadne monstry,keďže len checknuli na flope,call sa mi nepáčil lebo by som dával ostatným dobré odds s draw ktoré by ma mohli dominovať tak som sa rozhodol pre RAIS
      Flop: ($4.90) :8c: :3s: :6c: (4 players)
      SB checks, UTG checks, CO bets $2.90, Hero raises to $13.05 and is all-in, 2 folds, CO calls $10.15

      Turn: ($31) :5h: (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      River: ($31) :Js: (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Results:
      $31 pot ($1.32 rake)
      Final Board: :8c: :3s: :6c: :5h: J:
      SB mucked and lost (-$1.20 net)
      UTG mucked and lost (-$1.20 net)
      CO showed Q: :6h: :2s: :7h: and lost (-$14.25 net)
      Hero showed :8s: :Th: :Qc: :7c: and won $29.68 ($15.43 net)



      Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      Hero (SB): $16.91 (169.1 bb)
      BB: $19.80 (198 bb)
      UTG: $35.02 (350.2 bb)
      MP: $9.47 (94.7 bb)
      CO: $40.83 (408.3 bb)
      BTN: $25.80 (258 bb)
      tu bola asi chyba ne4betovať ale sme docela deep a som mimo pozíciu a súper na 250 rukách 17/12 fold to 4b 0/7 3b bb/sb 2/4
      Preflop: Hero is SB with :Qd: :Ac: :5h: :Ad:
      4 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, BB raises to $0.70, Hero calls $0.40
      ch/call flop mám tam dáke backdoory
      Flop: ($1.40) :Td: :Kh: :4h: (2 players)
      Hero checks, BB bets $1.10, Hero calls $1.10
      tu som sa rozhodol donknúť možno som mohol slabšie ale čakám že ma callne set ,FD+SD
      Turn: ($3.60) :Jd: (2 players)
      Hero bets $3.40, BB calls $3.40
      som stratený poráža ma jedine fullhouse,spätne som to asi mal callovať ale ma WTSD 78%,tak som to foldol
      River: ($10.40) :4s: (2 players)
      Hero checks, BB bets $7.50, Hero folds

      Results:
      $10.40 pot ($0.44 rake)
      Final Board: :Td: :Kh: :4h: :Jd: :4s:
      Hero mucked :Qd: :Ac: :5h: :Ad: and lost (-$5.20 net)
      BB mucked and won $9.96 ($4.76 net)


      Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      SB: $21.12 (211.2 bb)
      BB: $11.38 (113.8 bb)
      UTG: $36.96 (369.6 bb)
      MP: $6.91 (69.1 bb)
      Hero (CO): $16.31 (163.1 bb)
      BTN: $5.55 (55.5 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with :Tc: :8c: :Kh: :7h:
      UTG folds, MP calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.45, 3 folds, MP calls $0.35
      Už na flope som rozhodnutý hrať o stack je to overplay? short 38/12 44hand
      Flop: ($1.05) :Kd: :8h: :6h: (2 players)
      MP checks, Hero bets $0.80, MP calls $0.80

      Turn: ($2.65) :Ts: (2 players)
      MP checks, Hero bets $2, MP raises to $5.66 and is all-in, Hero calls $3.66

      River: ($13.97) :9h: (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Results:
      $13.97 pot ($0.59 rake)
      Final Board: :Kd: :8h: :6h: :Ts: :9h:
      MP showed :6c: :Ac: :8d: :6d: and lost (-$6.91 net)
      Hero showed :Tc: :8c: :Kh: :7h: and won $13.38 ($6.47 net)


      Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      SB: $10.62 (106.2 bb)
      BB: $10.12 (101.2 bb)
      UTG: $4.58 (45.8 bb)
      Hero (MP): $17.80 (178 bb)
      CO: $10.61 (106.1 bb)
      BTN: $8.81 (88.1 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is MP with :8s: :9c: :Ad: :Qd:
      UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.35, CO raises to $0.80, 2 folds, BB calls $0.70, Hero calls $0.45

      Flop: ($2.45) :7h: :Jd: :Ts: (3 players)
      BB bets $2.35, Hero raises to $9.40, CO folds, BB calls $6.97 and is all-in

      Turn: ($21.09) :4d: (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      River: ($21.09) Q: (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Results:
      $21.09 pot ($0.90 rake)
      Final Board: :7h: :Jd: :Ts: :4d: Q:
      BB showed :Kh: :8h: :Kd: :9s: and won $20.19 ($10.07 net)
      Hero showed :8s: :9c: :Ad: :Qd: and lost (-$10.12 net)
      CO mucked and lost (-$0.80 net)


      Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      SB: $11.18 (111.8 bb)
      Hero (BB): $10 (100 bb)
      UTG: $5 (50 bb)
      MP: $49.21 (492.1 bb)
      CO: $15.04 (150.4 bb)
      BTN: $13.04 (130.4 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with A: :3s: :6c: :Ah:
      UTG raises to $0.35, MP folds, CO raises to $1.20, 2 folds, Hero raises to $4, UTG folds, CO calls $2.80

      Flop: ($8.40) :Kh: :3h: :7d: (2 players)
      Hero bets $6 and is all-in, CO calls $6

      Turn: ($20.40) :5s: (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      River: ($20.40) :8h: (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Results:
      $20.40 pot ($0.87 rake)
      Final Board: :Kh: :3h: :7d: :5s: :8h:
      Hero showed A: :3s: :6c: :Ah: and lost (-$10 net)
      CO showed :Jd: :Qh: :6d: :9h: and won $19.53 ($9.53 net)

    • BuchoCZ
      BuchoCZ
      Black Member
      Registrace: 09.11.2007 Příspěvky: 489
      1) fold preflop, nemas zadne info, krome toho, ze NENI loose a cpes se do spotu s handou, ktera je lehce dominovana

      2) celkem ok, preflop neni treba 4bet, nemas premium AA

      3) v poradku

      4) v poradku

      5) v poradku

      glgl
    • nanoo13
      nanoo13
      Zlato
      Registrace: 31.05.2011 Příspěvky: 1,870
      SB,BB


      video...
      Link Text...
      .....inak 2 a 3časť moc neodporúčam ,4 a 5 ma čaká budúci týždeň
      Link Text...
      Link Text...
      BIG BLIND potrebná equity
      -vs 2x................................25% .............defending range........43%
      vs 3x..................................31%..............defending range.......33,3%
      vs 2x ak callne SB............17%

      poz/poz............. 3bet............call.............fold
      BBvsSB..............10/20%......70/80%.....0/10%
      BBvsBTN...........10/15%.......70/80%.....5/15%
      SBvsBTN............12/18%.......8/20%.......70/80%

      *na mňa docela loose range ale ten BB/SB a SB/BTN je hrateľný aj na plo10 keďže bežne tu stealujú hráči zo SB 50%+

      Čo je najväčší problém pri hre OOP
      -ťažko sa dostáva value
      -ťažko sa bluffuje
      -na flope máme málo informácii o súperovy,je problematické čítať súperovu handu
      -ťažko hrateľný pot kontrol
      -ťažko hrateľný river profitabilne
      ...v PLO na micro limite v podstate platí že hráči hrajú svoje DRAW SLOW a naopak MADE HANDY FAST...
      AKO HRAŤ OOP
      -nedefendovať WIDE,pozícia je doležitejšia ako karty!!!
      -hrať straight forward,polarizovať bet size,ak má súper SDV nechekovať naše NUTS
      -handy vhodné na 3bet(nie nuts) 3betovať zo SB ,ale z BB je vhodnejší call
      -s NUTS DRAW je lepšie hrať ch/call ako donk/fold
      -dávať dôraz na betsize súpera
      -3bet s dobrou EQUITY DISTRIBIUTION
      * :Jd: :Th: :9h: :8d: 23,5% flop FD 40% flop pár
      * :Kh: :Ks: :7c: :4d: 12% flop set+ ,vhodné na call do multiway,deepstack nevhodné na 3bet!!!
      -rozmýšľať ktoré karty budeme barelovať,predtým ako preberieme iniciativu,blokre hrajú dôležitú úlohu
      -DEEP a proti 2bb pfr 3betovať tight vysoké SPR
      -DEEP a v multi možme defendovať viac špekulatívne handy

      FAKTORY KTORE OVPLIVNUJÚ HRU OOP
      -raise sizing
      -Efektivne stacky súpera,súperov
      -pozícia súpera
      -súper agro,fish ,reg ???
      -naša handa



      :9c: :8h: :7c: :6h: 21 vs 6handed interative 42 vs random hand najhorší d/s rundown
      :Tc: :8h: :7c: :6h: 20 vs 6handed interative 37 vs random hand najhorší d/s rundown s jedným gapom
      :Qc: :Th: :8c: :6h: 19 vs 6handed interative 32 vs random hand najhorší d/s rundown s 2 gapmi :Jh: :9d: :7h: :5d: 24/31
      :Jh: :Ts: :7s: :6h: 16 vs 6handed interative 22 vs random hand najhorí d/s wrap
      :Js: :Td: :9s: :4d: 21 vs 6handed interative 31 vs random hand najhoršie d/s vysoké karty + dangler
      :6h: :6c: :7c: :8h: 16 vs 6handed interative 28 vs random hand najhorší d/s pár s konektormi
      :As: :4s: :6h: :7h: 17 vs 6handed interative 29 vs random hand najhoršie d/s Axxx
      :5h: :5c: :4c: :4h: 12 vs 6handed interative 33 vs random hand najhoršie dva d/s pary

      :Js: :Th: :9s: :8h: 21 vs 6handed interative 31 vs random hand najhorší s/s rundows
      ::Qs: :Ts: :Jh: :8d: 17 vs 6handed interative 24 vs random hand najhorší s/s rundown s jedným gapom
      :Ks: :9s: :Jd: :7c: 21 vs 6handed interative 21 vs random hand najhorší s/s rundown s 2 gapmi
      :Ks: :9s: :Qd: :8c: 20 vs 6handed interative 19 vs random hand najhorí s/s wrap
      :As: :4s: :Jh: :Tc: 15 vs 6handed interative 19 vs random hand najhoršie s/s vysoké karty + dangler
      :9h: :7h: :9c: :8s: 25 vs 6handed interative 19 vs random hand najhorší s/s pár s konektormi
      :7h: :7s: :6s: :7d: 17 vs 6handed interative 28 vs random hand najhoršie dva s/s pary

      :Ad: :Kc: :Qs: :Jh: 14 vs 6handed interative 20 vs random hand najhorší random rundown
      :As: :Kh: :Qc: :Td: 16 vs 6handed interative 23 vs random hand najhorší random rundown s jedným gapom
      :As: :Kh: :Td: :9c: 20 vs 6handed interative 20 vs random hand najhorší random wrap
      :9s: :9h: :Jd: :Tc: 28 vs 6handed interative 16 vs random hand najhorší random pár s konektormi
      :Ts: :Th: :9d: :9c: 15 vs 6handed interative 12 vs random hand najhoršie dva random pary :9c: :9d: :8h: :8s: 25/21
      :Ad: :Ac: :2s: :3h: 5 vs 6handed interative 6 vs random hand najhoršie random AAxx
    • nanoo13
      nanoo13
      Zlato
      Registrace: 31.05.2011 Příspěvky: 1,870
      EV,EQUITY,POTODDS,bla bla bla...


      EQUITY

      /call/pot+call/*100 =%equity

      Hľadal som dáku rozumnú metodu ako si vypočítať Equity ,žial sa mi nič vhodné nepodarilo najsť mimo PLO kalkulačky som našiel len dve metody

      Príklad

      Board: :4s: :2s: :Ac:
      Equity Vyhrává Dělí se
      MP2: 68.34% 68.34% 0.00% { :Ad: :Kd: :Ah: :Kh: }
      MP3: 31.66% 31.66% 0.00% { :Ts: :9s: :7c: :6c: }

      Takže to je moja Equity podľa Equilabu

      -klasická metoda z NLHE 4x flop 2xturn/pri viac ako 12 outoch +3
      flop 8OUTOV x4 =32%
      turn :5c: - (/7+6/ OUTOV x2) +3 =29% /podľa Equilabu 32,45%/
      -metoda 2+2
      flop 8x2 +2 = 18 %
      turn 13x2 +3 = 29%

      taaak ta druhá metóda je na flope uplne mimo,žiaľ tá prvá metóda sa dá používať len do 12-13 outov ,potom už lieta vypočítaná equity až moc mimo keďže PLO kalkulačka berie do úvahy backdoory,overkarty....
      Pri wrapoch zo 16-20 outami je odporúčanie len jedno hrať hrať hrať a potom analizovať v PLO kalkulačke

      Príklad 1

      CO KKxx 70%
      BTN :Ac: :6c: :7d: :8d: 30%
      BOARD :7c: :Jc: :Ks:

      Príklad 2

      CO KKxx 51%
      BTN :Ac: :8c: :Ts: :9s: 49%
      BOARD :7c: :Jc: :Ks:

      PREFLOP EQUITY
      -pozícia
      -range súpera
      -handa

      príklad 1,

      BTN :Ac: :Ah: :6d: :4s: 62,4%
      BB 40% 37,6 %

      Príklad 2,

      UTG:Ac: :Ah: :6d: :4s: 43,3%
      CO 20% 29%
      BB 50% 27,7%



    • nanoo13
      nanoo13
      Zlato
      Registrace: 31.05.2011 Příspěvky: 1,870
      a ešte zopár hand....
      na viacerých fórach som sa dočítal že cash stoly sú lepšie pre začínajúcich hráčov ako zoom tak som sa vrhol na bwine na cashku,čakanie na stol na plo10 som si krátil čas na plo 25:f_ugly:
      1,
      Party, $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      SB: $27.87 (111.5 bb)
      BB: $33.34 (133.4 bb)
      UTG: $42.35 (169.4 bb)
      MP: $30.61 (122.4 bb)
      CO: $40.01 (160 bb) 38hand 44/44 agf 1,5
      Hero (BTN): $25 (100 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BTN with :8h: :Qc: :3h: :9c:
      2 folds, CO raises to $0.85, Hero calls $0.85, SB folds, BB calls $0.60
      preflop asi standardný call možno by bolo lepšie 3betovať tu fisku aby sme ostali HU
      Flop: ($2.65) :5d: :8c: :3s: (3 players)
      BB bets $2.50, CO calls $2.50, Hero raises to $9.18, BB folds, CO raises to $32.56, Hero calls $14.97 and is all-in
      Flop bol docela dry ten donk od BB mi nedaval zmysel CO len callol tak som sa rozhodol s 2parmy raisovať a chrániť si handu pred OP a DRAW,BB fold dostávam rais od CO .....:f_o:
      Turn: ($53.45) :Th: (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      River: ($53.45) :9d: (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Results:
      $53.45 pot ($2.67 rake)
      Final Board: :5d: :8c: :3s: :Th: :9d:
      BB mucked and lost (-$3.35 net)
      CO showed :5s: :5c: :Tc: :4s: and won $50.78 ($25.78 net)
      Hero mucked :8h: :Qc: :3h: :9c: and lost (-$25 net)



      2,
      Party, $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      SB: $31.75 (127 bb)
      BB: $42.63 (170.5 bb)
      Hero (UTG): $38.29 (153.2 bb)
      MP: $89.35 (357.4 bb)
      CO: $68.23 (272.9 bb)
      BTN: $15.79 (63.2 bb) 24hand 50/24 3b 50%

      Preflop: Hero is UTG with J: :Ac: :Kd: :Qc:
      Hero raises to $0.85, 2 folds, BTN raises to $1.45, SB folds, BB calls $1.20, Hero raises to $5.90, BTN raises to $15.79 and is all-in, BB folds, Hero calls $9.89
      Dúfam že štandardný stack off VS agrofish
      Flop: ($33.13) :4c: :6s: :6c: (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      Turn: ($33.13) :8h: (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      River: ($33.13) :7d: (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Results:
      $33.13 pot ($1.65 rake)
      Final Board: :4c: :6s: :6c: :8h: :7d:
      Hero showed J: :Ac: :Kd: :Qc: and lost (-$15.79 net)
      BTN showed :9d: :Td: :Kc: :9c: and won $31.48 ($15.69 net)


      3, plo10
      Party, $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      SB: $10.27 (102.7 bb)
      Hero (BB): $10 (100 bb)
      UTG: $26.13 (261.3 bb) 28/17 utg open 30%
      MP: $35.46 (354.6 bb)
      CO: $22.40 (224 bb) 62/44 squeez 40 3b 66,7 21hand cbet flop v 3bet pote 100%
      BTN: $3.86 (38.6 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with :Kd: Q: K: :4d:
      UTG raises to $0.35, MP calls $0.35, 2 folds, SB raises to $1.50, Hero calls $1.40, UTG calls $1.15, MP folds
      preflop sa možno dalo aj stacknúť s tou fiskou keďže čakám že to UTG bude otvárať širokú range
      Flop: ($4.85) :7d: J: :6s: (3 players)
      SB bets $4.51, Hero raises to $8.50 and is all-in, UTG folds, SB calls $3.99
      OP+FD
      Turn: ($21.85) :2s: (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      River: ($21.85) :Tc: (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Results:
      $21.85 pot ($1 rake)
      Final Board: :7d: J: :6s: :2s: :Tc:
      SB showed :Ac: :Ad: :2d: :5c: and lost (-$10 net)
      Hero showed :Kd: Q: K: :4d: and won $20.85 ($10.85 net)
      UTG mucked and lost (-$1.50 net)



      4,
      Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      SB: $26.15 (261.5 bb) 22hand 35/35 squez 33
      BB: $25.68 (256.8 bb)
      UTG: $10.10 (101 bb) 24hand 36/27
      MP: $34.31 (343.1 bb)
      Hero (CO): $17.97 (179.7 bb)
      BTN: $14.02 (140.2 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with :Ad: :Ah: :3s: K:
      UTG raises to $0.30, MP folds, Hero calls $0.30, BTN calls $0.30, SB raises to $1.60, BB folds, UTG calls $1.30, Hero raises to $6.80, BTN folds, SB raises to $22.40, UTG calls $8.50 and is all-in, Hero calls $11.17 and is all-in
      weak AA som nechcel 3betovat do utg aj ked tam bude mat siroku range tak na SB bol dalsi loose hrac a na BB fish 80/15,takze by sa mi mohlo stat ze budem mat poziciu ale v obrovskom pote,prichádza ale squeez od SB a UTG calluje,dal som prednost 4betu pred callom kedze to SB bude mat najskor siroku squeez range a dufajuc ze sa mi podarí vyfoldovat to UTG ,a na flope budem HU s SPR 1
      Flop: ($46.44) :Qh: :3c: :3h: (3 players, 2 are all-in)
      Turn: ($46.44) :Jd: (3 players, 2 are all-in)
      River: ($46.44) :4s: (3 players, 2 are all-in)

      Results:
      $46.44 pot ($1.50 rake)
      Final Board: :Qh: :3c: :3h: :Jd: :4s:
      SB showed :8h: T: 9: :Jh: and lost (-$17.97 net)
      UTG showed :Ac: :9h: :8c: :7h: and lost (-$10.10 net)
      Hero showed :Ad: :Ah: :3s: K: and won $44.94 ($26.97 net)


      5,
      Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      SB: $13.20 (132 bb)
      BB: $15.15 (151.5 bb)
      Hero (UTG): $10.91 (109.1 bb)
      MP: $7.04 (70.4 bb)
      CO: $37.50 (375 bb) 80hand 47/30 3b 28,6
      BTN: $12.31 (123.1 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is UTG with :Th: :Jh: :Qc: :Kd:
      Hero raises to $0.35, MP folds, CO raises to $1.20, 3 folds, Hero raises to $3.75, CO calls $2.55
      dostávam 3b od loosehráča 3b do EP 2/5 do MP 1/3,som oop možno sa to dalo iba callovať ale súper je docela agro a na flope by som bol často stratený tak som sa rozhodol pre 4b
      Flop: ($7.65) :7c: :Kc: J: (2 players)
      Hero bets $7.16 and is all-in, CO calls $7.16
      mám 2páry ,jediné čo ma realne poráža je asi len set KK aj ked u tohto hráča sú možné aj 77,tak či tak pot bet a idem all

      Turn: ($21.97) :2c: (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      River: ($21.97) A: (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Results:
      $21.97 pot ($0.93 rake)
      Final Board: :7c: :Kc: J: :2c: A:
      Hero showed :Th: :Jh: :Qc: :Kd: and lost (-$10.91 net)
      CO showed :5c: :4d: :6c: :8s: and won $21.04 ($10.13 net)

    • nanoo13
      nanoo13
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      Registrace: 31.05.2011 Příspěvky: 1,870
      WRAP

      ZDROJ 1,
      ...je to vlastne draw s 8+ OUTS...




      ZDROJ 2,
      x- karty
      y- bord
      pravá strana outy(čisté outy)
      Wrap around connector:........................ Wrap around 1-gapper:...........................Wrap around 2-gapper:
      2-2 x x y y x x 20 (14) ............................... 1-1 x y x y x 17 (11) ................................. 1-0 x y x x y 13 (13)
      2-1 x x y y x 17 (11) .................................. 2-1 x x y x y x 16 (16) ................................ 0-1 y x x y x 13 (7)
      1-2 x y y x x 17 (7) ..................................... 2-0 x x y x y 13 (13)
      3-1 x x x y y x 16 (16) ................................. 0-2 y x y x x 13 (3)
      3-0 x x x y y 13 (13)
      0-3 y y x x x 13 (3)

      Wrap s 9 outami:

      VS 2pary
      MP2 :8d: :7d: :Ah: :6h:
      MP3::As: :9s: :5s: :Ac:

      Board: Q:spade: 9:club: 5:club:
             Equity  Vyhrává  Dělí se
      MP2    36.08%   36.08%    0.00% { 8d7dAh6h }
      MP3    63.92%   63.92%    0.00% { As9s5sAc }


      VS FD
      MP2 :8d: :7d: :Ah: :6h:
      MP3:::Ac: :Kc: :6s: :4s:

      Board: Q:spade: 9:club: 5:club:
             Equity  Vyhrává  Dělí se
      MP2    16.26%   16.26%    0.00% { 8d7dAh6h }
      MP3    83.74%   83.74%    0.00% { 6s4sAcKc }


      VS SET
      MP2 :8d: :7d: :Ah: :6h:
      MP3::Ad: :Qd: :Qh: :Ac:

      Board: Q:spade: 9:club: 5:club:
             Equity  Vyhrává  Dělí se
      MP2    34.61%   34.61%    0.00% { 8d7dAh6h }
      MP3    65.39%   65.39%    0.00% { AdQdQhAc }
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